Left Nat polcomp2

Left Wing Nationalism based on this type of Left Wing Nationalism

r/worldnews subreddit's Schrodinger's Conservative Jingoist Zionists , Zionists from r/Destiny subreddit and similar liberal left Zionists from the r/israelpalestineconflict subreddit saying below that both Nationalism (that meshes with this line of thought) AND Zionism are ok, natural and leftish, including them quoting Rosa Luxemberg to prove it: 

Rosa Luxemberg would support a Jewish-Nation state if she was on Earth today instead of in heaven. She wrote a book in 1900 called "In Defence of Nationality"in which she defended such types of nation-states as Israel would later become. She even said that "Every socialist movement had essential components of nationalism". So we need a Jewish state to keep existing for some time to slowly ease it into a Post Zionism type of state.  Then as mentioned above Israel will be on its way to being a Rosa Luxemburgian Post Statist Socialist state in no time (Rosa would also support this similar type of Nationalism ideology)

Zionism is the idea that Jews should have the right to national self-determination like every other nation, embodied in the State of Israel as a safe haven for continually oppressed Jews of the world.

Anti-Zionism becomes antisemitic when it becomes antisemitic. Zionism is a political project. It is very separate from the religion of Judaism and it’s people. Zionism is essentially “Jewish nationalism.”

So an analogue could be something like when does anti-Christian nationalism become anti Christian. Probably when you start labeling all Christians with blood libel and essentialize a political view and it’s negative implications to the whole of a people.

99% of all countries are based around Central ethno-lingustuc / cultural group. Austromarxism (a Unity type of Nationalism which I support and that like Rosa Luxemburg fused Nationalism [see above] ,Marxism and Social Democracy into one ideology) from its Marxist analysis supports a more left wing version of that idea. 

Antisemitism is super obvious when someone is against a Jewish nation but is completely fine Japanese nation, Swedish Nation, or Syrian Nation, etc...

If you are only against the Jewish nation, but not any other one - you are an antisemitic person.

I think a distinction should be made. Zionism != Jewish nationalism. Nationalism carries heavy connotations but zionism in general is just the development and protection of a jewish state. So anti-zionism carries meaning such as the state of Israel shouldnt exist. Yes regular zionists can be nationalists but it’s still a far cry from the far right that should rightfully be criticized.

Ultrazionists are very real and I would say they are the real nationalists but frankly they’re more fervent (hence the ultra I guess). These are the nationalists that want to expand and grow Israel’s reach and land as seen by the illegal settlements in the west bank and plenty of other reprehensible behavior.

Associating zionism with hard nationalism can be dangerous for ordinary jews who want to protect and develop the state of Israel but not want to aggressively/illegally expand or practice discriminatory anti-peace behaviors like the ultrazionists (ultranationalists).