Migration main part summed
My views on migration vary based on whatever the current conditions exist at the time, but in general I am truly left wing on migration. Here is what it means to be truly left wing on migration
What I wrote in the above link along with my Libertarianism , Anti Corporatist and Anti globalization views along with the line of thinking in this post plays a big part in my migration views, as you’ll see throughout my blog
While I join with fellow leftists in opposing xenophobia, I stress that all borders should be razed to enable untrammeled migration. Some ways I support doing so include this way, this way, this way, this way fused with this way and as mentioned here AND in all the ways in all my blog spheres where I supported loose borders or open borders type migration policies that I didn't mention in this in a nutshell blog sphere (which basically translates to E Macronist type pro migrant policies as can be seen in most of my migration views throughout all of my blog spheres)
So to expand on that, on one hand open borders before political union of proletarian states is dumb as heck
Yet on another hand, open borders would accelerate the creation of proletarian states. At least in the US, immigrants are more likely to support unions than native workers. Unions are necessary to form class consciousness. Though we need to get rid of the business unionism that has failed.
And on a third hand, the valorization of free movement as the neat right of families to 'pick up and migrate across the world to start new lives' is a distraction from the truth that a lot of people who migrate are forced to migrate because of the actions of those countries that they are migrating to.
The majority of people really do want to live in their home countries and the fact that poor people in the global south are forced to migrate due to economic instability and imperialism, colonialism, warmongering and intervention by world powers needs to be looked at as a tragedy.
But instead people in the first world get the chance to feel like enlightened global citizens because they are joyful for those immigrants being here at the bottom of the ladder.
As seen above, going to open borders requires a practical set up and common sense paradigm shift before we get to that point of opening our borders and planet. It isn't something to do at a whim.
So I balance those handy views above which is why I have my unique, syncretic adjacent views on migration throughout all of my blog spheres
I advocate protection of all workers rights no matter country of origin. See here for more
I support the creation of a Refugee Nation , which is a new nation to voluntarily resettle the world's refugee population to solve crisis.
My valued alignment on migration:
The reason I am not ra ra on open borders as radgeek (Left Libertarian/Libertarian Socialist unironic open border supporter) is because of this :
Moreover, working with our neighbors to improve security across the region is an imporant component of any policy to promote prosperity and fairness in the hemisphere. A safe and secure region will lead to a safer, more secure United States.
I also believe that the US also must engage with countries like Mexico and in Central America to address the causes that cause them to migrate to the US illegally
Illegal Immigrants should NOT have more rights than legal citizens. They should have the same rights
Illegal Immigrants should NOT have easier access healthcare than legal citizens do , they should have the same access
Illegal immigrants should NOT have easier accesss to welfare and UBI than legal citizens do, they should have the same access
Illegal immigrants and refugees don't commit more or less crime/violent crime than legal citizens.
Maybe we can get all Trump extremists (like the ones mentioned by John Brennan and GWB in 2021) to self deport and only be allowed to move back to the US when they become deradicalized
This shows how Liberal 2.0ers can be hypocrites on the ‘reunite kids at the border with their families’. But I also have these views on the kids in cages thing
I support allowing the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement to be notified when illegal immigrants attempt to purchase guns
We need to get unions to intersect with migrants and workers in other countries to improve the economic system and migration without being bigoted “Admittedly, union opposition to mass migration was sometimes intermingled with racism (which was present across American society) in previous eras
What is omitted in libertarian attempts to smear trade unions as “the real racists,” however, is that in the days of strong trade unions, they were also able to use their power to mount campaigns of international solidarity with workers’ movements around the world. Unions raised the wages of millions of nonwhite members, while deunionization today is estimated to cost black American men $50 a week.5” Andrea Nagle A Left Case Against Open Borders.
I am against NAFTA
I am a semi soft Euroskeptic
I do not support the United Nations migrant treaty
I don't believe that churches should snitch on illegal immigrants because that would be against God
Remember Jesus quote in the bible about David stealing the bread? I feel that is needed to provide nuance to the illegal immigration debate.
It is less bad to bus migrants from red states to blue states than to deport them but it is sad either way . Anyhow these views on.this forum ,which I agree with too, expand on those views I have a bit)
The red states busing migrants to blue states is sadly a publicity stunt. Yes, those busings are a waste of taxpayer money. But I also think the blue states can't complain about the border states sending them undocumented immigrants because of the cost. Why do the border states have to bear the brunt of the cost?
And do I mind immigrants or don't you? I don't mind at all. I think we should have a humane way of processing undocumented immigrants and the cost should be paid for by everybody. The immigrants in these cases agreed to go to these places. I don't see why anyone should be horrified by it.
Even at worst, the red states busing illegal immigrants to northern states is still not human trafficking , but there could be other charges filed against red states for those busings. However some illegal immigrants do traffic in other people over the border, so that is literal human trafficking but Liberal 2.0s don’t seem so concerned with that but they should be
It does suck that those illegal immigrants are being toyed with and used as political pinatas . The well being of those illegal immigrants should be the number one concern before anything else
You can’t throw red state Republicans in prison for these illegal immigrant busings because the Republican party is the new mafia, and you can’t take down the mob (unless you are Rudy Guilani)!!
The blue states should bus prison inmates to the red states as payback for red states busing illegal immigrants to blue states
The border should be tougher to prevent fentanyl from illegally coming into the US . Average Americans are the ones who are overdosing on fentanyl . To Liberal 2.0ers, it doesn’t matter if normal people get screwed since they allow such drugs like Fentanyl to come pouting in without being on high alert to confiscate it I would be open to supporting the use of US special forces to go into Mexico to prevent fentanyl from being smuggled into the US. Our people deserve to be protected from that poison
I feel the US should focus as much as strengthening our border more than KJP claims we are, as we are in aiding Ukraine. Securing our border (as RFK Jr and the Hill support) should be a higher priority for the US than securing Ukraine. Americans come first. Otherwise force Ukraine to patrol our border after their conflict with Russia ends to pay us back for our never ending stream of Ukraine aid to them
Since I am against North Korea and the Soviet bloc forbidding emigration, I have no choice but to be against countries forbidding immigration, even illegal immigration , so I don’t look like a hypocrite. But I balance that with my Fresh Continuous Forward Defense gradualist and Neo Libertarian incrementalism views on migration
I supported the Jeremy Corbyn Brexit for the UK and I am glad that the UK left the EU
The market-liberal case for me supporting Brexit fuses together my view that eliminating a level of government is usually good; my generalized skepticism of distant and central authority; and my specific beliefs about the planning, socialist, or overregulatory propensities of the EU, particularly relative to the UK.
The EU is antidemocratic which is an issue. The EU does bring one good thing to its workers: it gives its workers freedom of movement. It is vital for a working class revolution not to be limited to the national borders. It’s important that we organize internationally. So ironically the EU trying to suppress the working class does deliver us the greatest tool for overthrowing it. We gain strength in numbers.
I feel Tucker Carlson isn't an intelligent person if he gets his talking points on migration from the deep Right Wing/Alt right forums. He should do more research and rely on better sources before he speaks about migration and Democrats.
More and more hispanic voters are voting Republican than Democrat so that disproves Tucker Carlson’s wild migration theories
Even if migrants voted more D than R, (https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/07/22/are-unauthorized-immigrants-overwhelmingly-democrats) , so what?
It may be true but there is no hidden 'conspiracy' by Democrats to have Democrat voter migrants magically replace non Democrat voter migrants. The Democrats aren't smart enough to devise such a scheme. We can't even pass Left wing economic policies with a Democrat house.
In the Emerging Democratic Majority, a 2002 book by John Judis and Teixeira, predicted the coalition of college graduates and minority voters that brought former President Barack Obama to power. Democrats path’s to victory involves expanding the electorate with young and diverse voters something that the Republicans neglect
In 2013, the Center for American Progress said, "Supporting real immigration reform that contains a pathway to citizenship for our nation's 11 million undocumented immigrants is the only way to maintain electoral strength in the future."
The Republicans appealing to mostly white voters (like in 2016 in Donald’s Trump faux election victory) ,being border-hawks and being hard on migration pushes many migrants (many of whom come from Liberal 2.0 or Democrat countries in Europe, Canada, South America etc) to vote Democrat.
Democrats may know somewhere inside what that pew article says in terms of more migrants probasily voting D than R but that isn’t why they are pro migrant.
Though it might unconsciously or very deep down inside push Democrats to not move right at all on illegal immigration, securing the border, bipartisanship on migration etc.
If Republicans would ease up on migration , come left a bit and be more inclusive and big tent, maybe they can get the migrant vote over the Democrats. If Republicans want to stop migrants from voting Democrat then the Republicans should try to win the migrant vote instead of coming up with wild theories
America has always been a haven for migrants of all identities. Our country was Native American before it was stolen by aristocratic imperialist bourgeois colonist Europeans so even if it we became majority BIPOC, it would be like the pre colonized US.
I agree with Michelle Goldberg here,I am glad that our society is becoming a new multiracial polyglot majority since I love diversity.
“… Right now America is tearing itself apart as an embittered white conservative minority clings to power, terrified at being swamped by a new multiracial polyglot majority. The divide feels especially stark in Georgia, where the midterm election is a battle between Trumpist reaction and the multicultural America whose emergence the right is trying, at all costs, to forestall. … In a week, American voters can do to white nationalists what they fear most. Show them they’re being replaced.“
I wish that Right Wing navitvists and Great replacement baseless theory believers can stop being so nativist and conspiratal and read below for a primer on how they can be pro migrant and like a radically centrist lean left wing version of the CATO:
Using the UK as an example but this can apply to my fellow Americans as well:
UK nationalists who get all bent out of shape over the 'mass influx' of working-class Muslim immigrants, seems to forget that during the Victorian era, there was a mass immigration influx of working-class Irish immigrants to England which followed the famines at the time.
There was a ton of anti-Irish propaganda back then, with eerily similar messages to the Anti Muslim rhetoric we hear today, about immigrants 'taking their jobs' and being not quite as good as the English.
And yet has Irish immigration caused English society to collapse? Has Irish terrorism prevailed over England? The answer is, of course not, it has not.
But English Nationalists tend to believe that any perceived difference to the status quo of English culture is the first time it's happened on record, and it's going to be some horrible destruction of the country. Like, calm down
All of the non-Jewish, right-wing extremists are to some degree anti-semitic, that shouldn't be debatable.
Though what is debatable is identifying who is a right-wing extremist and who is merely a staunch conservative or civic nationalist.
Staunch conservatives and civic nationalists rarely are in particular antisemitic. In a lot of cases, even non moderate Conservatives aren't antisemitic at all, particularly among Conservatives on the coasts in locations like NYC, Los Angeles and Miami who are surrounded by Jewish people and thus understand first hand that there is no Jewish conspiracy to cause devastation onto all non-Jews.
On a personal level Donald Trump might actually fall into that coastal Conservative category actually, I admit that he did not create any anti-semitic laws or make any anti-semitic executive orders. Trump even supported giving way more financial aid to Israel than Israel really needs.
However, since it's not socially acceptable to be a naughtzie sympathizer publicly in a multiracial society like the US where whites are not big of a majority, naughtzie sympathizers cloak themselves as staunch conservatives, they rarely cloak themselves as progressives or even centrists
And this covert infiltration of legit conservative communities by covert anti-semitic white ’nationalists’ is evident, and I feel that conservatives, who in numerous cases aren't antisemitic, do not ostracize these anti-semitic people the way they should, and they passively condone it, and also amplify it in a few cases when they dogwhistle since it's politically expedient and at times even financially expedient for them, it helps them to win elections and it helps them to maximize the markets for anything they are selling or assisting others in selling as the go-between. I’ve seen these patterns in the last 10 years. It started with the Alt Right infiltrating MAGA around 2016.
Democrats Hate the Working Class. Letting Migrants Work Is the Latest Proof is a interesting hard hyperreal truth read on Democrats abandoning the working class
It would be ideal on some level if migrants from third world or global south countries stayed in their countries ONLY in order to make their own countries better and become 1st world and thriving. But I am a Marxist materialist not an idealist so I'll pass on that viewpoint
My pan blog sphere migration views from my egalitarian, see through the forest for the trees views (see here)
My pan blog sphere migration views from a fluid, dynamic perspective (see here)
My Hyperreal views on migration (see here)
My Blog 1 truepolitical views on migration (see here)
My private views on migration (see here)
My At heart views on migration (see here)
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